Curse

Aeronwen · Aug 07, 2010, 08:55 AM // 08:55

Sure it's annoying when your team has leechers/leavers, but I suspect most of the time it is actually dc etc and not under the players control. It happens to us all sometimes.

Whats more annoying, especially in JQ is the bots you see over and over again.

I always report leechers (after a pause) and I dont mind if I am reported when I am dc'd or suddenly get a slow load. But I DO mind when I get a hex because I am the only one who reports, or for some mysterious reason that I can't work out (grief reporting I guess).

Everyone using the system we have already in the correct manner would be a better change.

Mintha Syl · Aug 07, 2010, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by C.H.U.C.K.S

While most of the people are leechers or quitter there is a percentage that are in fact mapping. For some reason the PVP area's of FA and JQ count towards the Canthan carto title. So, I mapped Luxon, with some running skills because I dont wanna fight, I wanna map. Once completed there, I left b/c I was no use anyways (as a paragon), and I went to the kurzick side and left there as well. I got dishonorable, and once that was lifted I repeated on the FA arena. It would make sense if these didnt contibute towards the title, or there was some way to map without being in the competitive mission.

Other than the random dc/rl inexpected problems, this is a good reason for not signing.
I fear when I'll have to map those areas, because I'd really feel bad for ruining the game for the rest of the team, but unfortunately there's no other way to map, so...

Aeronwen · Aug 07, 2010, 11:20 AM // 11:20

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Originally Posted by Mintha Syl

I fear when I'll have to map those areas, because I'd really feel bad for ruining the game for the rest of the team, but unfortunately there's no other way to map, so...

Actually if you are prepared to take time over it you can minimise your impact on the team by mapping only a small bit each game and actually doing your best to help your team win. I mapped this way - it took about 4 games for each side of each of FA/JQ.

Mintha Syl · Aug 07, 2010, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by Aeronwen

Actually if you are prepared to take time over it you can minimise your impact on the team by mapping only a small bit each game and actually doing your best to help your team win. I mapped this way - it took about 4 games for each side of each of FA/JQ.

Good to know, I thought you couldn't manage to do both.

Spike Stritter · Aug 08, 2010, 02:30 AM // 02:30

New dishonor system for leechers/leavers: Instead of PvP time penalty make it to where they lose balthzar faction + Kurzick/Luxon faction depending on what part of PvP they're playing.

It will never be implemented, but I think it sounds good.

StormX · Aug 09, 2010, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Much as I would love to see the b****s banned, I know it's not going to happen. So I propose to make the dishonor accrual period longer. Make it at least 24 hrs during which a player who racks up more and more dishonor points will be kept out of the game longer. Right now getting your slate wiped every 1 hr is ridiculous and does little to deter those serial leechers who are probably afk anyway

I do agree that the report system is kind of buggy though; I've gotten the hex a few times for no apparent reason.

Swahnee · Aug 09, 2010, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by Mintha Syl

Other than the random dc/rl inexpected problems, this is a good reason for not signing.
I fear when I'll have to map those areas, because I'd really feel bad for ruining the game for the rest of the team, but unfortunately there's no other way to map, so...

I've mapped them entering both JQ and FA with texmod (0.something percent remaining) with good builds for playing, and then i played, paying attention to do something everywhere (RoJ'ing all the bases, or helping everywhere in FA), and i maxed the title without any problem.

However, i agree that this PvE content which isn't related in any way with the PvP play (because it's grinding a title, after all) shouldn't interfere with it, so no percentage of exploration should be given in those areas.

On topic, i think that the RL issues should be taken into account, as someone else has already said. I would let people exit a PvP game or staying there without doing anything, but only for a fixed amount of times every day (or every week, the numbers should be thought about), so for example if you get reported for whatever reason for the first time this day, ok, the game assumes you've got IRL problems, if you get reported the second time, ok again, another problem, and maybe even a third time (again, this is only an example), but at the fourth time it starts the punishment. Think about it as the systems related to passwords: you can fail to enter your password for a fixed amount of times, after which you won't be able to enter wherever you wanted to enter, unless you contact administrators or whatever. In this way, if someone wants to leech on purpose, for example to grind factions, he can do it only a few times, so it wouldn't be profitable, and it would be better for him to actually play the game.

Just Sai · Aug 11, 2010, 11:00 AM // 11:00

if they get dishonored, add an account wide death penalty on all characters in all areas of the game, pvp + pve for a suitable duration

.. but life does happen on the other side of the screen
its not always at fault.
if its on my team il work even harder and if lucky, enjoy a sweeter victory for the disadvantage, if its on the other team.. well yay